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Silver Adept ([personal profile] silveradept) wrote2025-08-09 10:18 pm

/run/media/silveradept: KPop Demon Hunters (2025)

So, on the recommendation of many (including seeing things related to it popping up in my channels regularly, and a fair number of people who are apparently all-in for the main trio being a trio romantically), I watched KPop Demon Hunters.

Have some non-spoilery thoughts, in no particular order:
  • I wonder how ONCE feels about having gotten TWICE to be the group doing the movie credits version of one of the songs played in snippets throughout the movie.

  • Daniel Dae Kim and Ken Jeong make perfect sense for the roles they're cast in.

  • Speaking of voices, the one they cast for the greater-scope villain was delightfully correct, although the casting direction seems to have suggested that he move in the direction of "clipping syllables in an English-as-Second-Language" way. I don't want someone to speak in something that isn't comfortable to them, or to not sound like themselves, but it felt more like a conscious direction rather than someone's natural cadence to do it that way, and it made the greater-scope villain come off slightly more like a Bond villain being played for a bit of camp than as the greater-scope villain. Maybe I'm reading too much into the delivery, or maybe the intention was for this character to sound just slightly off from the rest of the cast.

  • The Netflix subtitlers managed not to figure out something that fansubbers of various Asian series have known for decades, and even those who subtitle K-Pop releases: how to properly subtitle songs. Which is a major strike against them for a movie that has an awful lot of singing! We didn't necessarily have to go full-on for the kind of karaoke-style, rainbow, motion-filled subtitles that fansubbers of anime and toku series got (get?) made fun of for using in their releases, but these subtitlers went in the direction of just putting the syllables of the words in the subtitles, or otherwise doing Revised Romanization of the spoken or sung Korean and leaving it at that. So there's no context to those lines, nor what they look like in Hangul (which you can see in one of the shots that is the behind-the-scenes for TWICE recording the song playing over the first part of the credits), nor a translation of what the Korean says into English (or whichever language you want as the subtitles.) Admittedly, it would be more offensive to just put [Korean] or [Speaking/Singing in a Global Language] for those sections, but only just. The purpose of the subtitling there is so that someone can follow along with the audio track and make sure they're not missing anything, and if the audio track includes singing in Korean or rapping in Korean, as it does in this movie, the subtitlers have a responsibility to render it comprehensibly. (Bets on whether Tumblr has a transcript of all the songs that renders them correctly and translates them correctly at this point?)

    I'm very unhappy with the job the subtitlers did on this movie, and I think Netflix needs to release a revision to accurately reflect what happens in the movie.

  • I suspect there are more than a few things about the movie that I missed, because my understanding of symbology of both Korean cosmology and mythology and the intricacies of K-pop fandom isn't as complete as it should be to fully appreciate what's going on here. (I did at least understand the light sticks, banners, appearances on various shows and the part where the performers are basically on their public game anywhere the public might see them, which includes never ever wanting to say or do anything that would say there was a relationship between idols and anyone at all, including other idols. Not that it stops the fans from shipping them, either in their own groups or possibly with other groups that they're seen with or rivals with.) Most of my understanding of K-Pop comes from people like [personal profile] brithistorian and [personal profile] andersenmom, so thank you for your help and answering the silly questions that I've had over time.

    I did appreciate the music through the decades montage at the beginning, and I'm not sure the average watcher will realize just how much Korean music is influenced by American styles of music through those eras, before the phenomenon that we know of as K-pop comes into existence. (And which exchanges/inherits a fair amount of its cues and norms with Japanese pop idol culture, such that we think of them as J-pop and K-pop, at least over here in my neck of cultural existence.)

  • Related to this, however, it looks like Sony Animation went with the same general style and animation timing that they used on the Spider-Verse movies at times while I was watching it. While, for Spider-Verse, the animation timing is a deliberate decision and works for the comic-book nature of the multiverse being portrayed, here, the dance sequences that should be smooth as butter in the animation, probably even with some extra key frames to make sure it all goes well, several of them hitched and were otherwise more jerky than I would have expected out of a studio trying to match the intricate choreography that can accompany K-pop. It's possible that these hitches and jerkiness were my Internet connection having hiccups or my computer having a hitch, but I don't think so. Others can tell me how smooth their watch was of the movie, but for the moment, I'm chalking this up to Sony Animation's house style and timing clashing with what you would want animated K-Pop to look like. (There were noticeably fewer hiccups in the action sequences, which is why I think I think it was a style decision rather than a slowdown, because action animation would be more likely to have degradation than the dance sequences, in my opinion.)

  • Yes, but what did you think about the plot?

    It was a perfectly serviceable plot. You'll recognize all the beats if you watched the first Frozen movie, although it is harsher to the lesser-scope villain than most Disney films would be. This particular version of the movie leans heavier into the "Demon Hunters" part of the title, and I don't know if that was the right decision for the plot, because the plot sets up both a movie where action and stylish fighting, accompanied by singing, will determine the outcome (the direction they took) and a movie where the principal heroines and their principal opposition are in a for-all-the-marbles stakes idol game to be determined by who has the bigger fanbase after the agreed-upon final duel at the Idol Awards competition. That would have made the K-pop part of it much more important, and given them all the tools they needed to wage an epic battle across various releases, appearances, and the rest that wouldn't have to involve all that many attempts at direct sabotage or fighting between the two groups, even if there was an awful lot of things that could be excused as "special effects." I'm pretty sure if the writers had enough experience with how idol systems work and the less than savory elements of the companies and managers of the various idols, they could write a very good movie full of underhanded tactics, diss tracks, "accidental" social media leaks, and all the rest of it. I think focusing on the K-pop aspect would also make the internal divisions and the character conflicts in the protagonist trio work better, as each of them starts giving in to more of their worser aspects in trying to beat their rival team, and that would make the parts of the plot that are about secrets and lies work better, since the character hiding the biggest secret will have had the opportunity to see the very worst aspects of the team and believe such things are their actual selves, instead of their more restrained forms. (Which will also make the ultimate climax portion of the movie work better, as well, to make it much clearer why the protagonist team ends up where they do and the way they do before the final battle.)

  • Final thought: The movie could cut the gag about certain members of the trio having heart eyes and popcorn eyes about the prettiness of the pretty boys in the rival group. It doesn't actually contribute to the plot, and it makes the characters shallower in a way that doesn't suit them. They could certainly make commentary on the boys being eye candy, even supernaturally so, because that's how they're drawn to be, but the majority of the movie shows this trio as a focused, work-first, idol trio who want to enjoy their downtime, except for that one member who keeps pushing them to not take their breaks. They're not shown as flighty or otherwise susceptible to that kind of distraction, and they primarily work through it when it happens, so thy could just cut the gag entirely and replace it with something else that would work better. Like an offhand comment about how those boys are trying to get by on their looks, while they're getting by on great songs. And then eventually admit to themselves that the boys have catchy songs, too, but stay primarily focused on making their own, better songs to beat them, since they never really try to change their look to be more attractive to the fans than the pretty boys.
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kaffy_r ([personal profile] kaffy_r) wrote2025-08-09 10:01 pm
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Dept. of Baking

Healthy Summer Living FTW

It was 95F or so today, with a heat index of 106F. So what did I do? I stayed inside, of course, where I could enjoy air conditioning. 

Oh, and then I spent the entire afternoon baking. You know, that culinary art that involves working in a hot kitchen? Yeah. 

Why yes, I can operate somewhat counter intuitively, why do you ask?

About four dozen peanut butter chocolate chip cookies (far fewer as of now, since Bob and I have been eating far too many of them), and two loaves of bread, due to come out of the oven in about 29 minutes. And I am untowardly pleased with myself. 

Tomorrow, I help my friend RS install Zoom on her tablet; we were supposed to do it Friday, and then today, but she said it was too hot for me to come over. I suppose I won't tell her about my kitchen adventures. Heh. 

I'm wondering if there's anyone out there on my f'list who's watched KPop Demon Hunters. I have folks elsewhere who've seen it and loved it as I do, but I'm wondering what people beyond my KPop stan circles think of it. It's not really how KPop operates, but it's a cute KPop fairy tale* with some truly ear-wormy songs. Anyone out there? Anyone? Bueller? 

*One of the guys in one of the groups I love said he couldn't watch it because it wasn't how things actually operated. Bless - fairy tales don't work like the real world works, sweetie. 
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kaffy_r ([personal profile] kaffy_r) wrote2025-08-08 06:47 pm

Dept. of Farewell

James Arthur Lovell, Jr. 1927-2025







He never actually said "Houston, we have a problem." That was apparently his crew mate, Jack Swigert, who reportedly said "OK Houston, I believe we've had a problem here." Lovell then clarified the situation further, saying "We've had a problem here. We've had a main B bus undervolt."

It doesn't matter, ultimately, because Lovell's heroism wasn't because of what he said.

Lovell, the commander of the ill-fated Apollo 13 mission in 1970, was the face of a mission that turned from a potential tragedy to a victory of teamwork, both on the ground and in the cold and dark lunar landing module - a bloody-minded determination to get the crew home, using spit and baling wire (actually plastic bags, cardboard and duct tape) and on-the-fly math and physics problem-solving with pencils, papers and slide rules. Lovell played an active part in that kind of pre-smartphone computing; one of his many talents was engineering know how. 

These two videos are both gripping, although the first (and possibly better) one is on a page that isn't as accurate as it might have been. The one from the NASA website is slightly dryer, but with a wealth of information.*

His life, from his birth in Cleveland to his death in Lake Forest, Illinois, was so much more than that admittedly defining moment. The Wikipedia article is rigorously complete. The Washington Post's story is a good one (possibly paywalled), and the Chicago Sun Times' story, which is not behind a paywall, comes from an excellent writer and full of hometown pride. The stories talk about Lovell's love affair with rockets and space, which started when he was a kid and never ended. The stories are so worthwhile to read. 

Rest in honorable piece, Commander Lovell, and may you finally walk on the moon as you make your journey to the stars. 

* YouTube has decided to be a mess today, so it might be worth avoiding it. 


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kaffy_r ([personal profile] kaffy_r) wrote2025-08-07 07:53 pm

Dept. of Recovering Spoons

Hello and Hello and Hello

I'd written an entire post. It took a lot out of me. And I hit the wrong damn key and it's gone and it isn't recoverable. Believe me, I've tried. So here's what I can do.

Trigger warning follows for a bad mental situation, although it's much better now: 

I mean it. TW for self-harm shit.  )And that's that. I think I can get back to relatively wholesome posting Real Soon Now. 
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Silver Adept ([personal profile] silveradept) wrote2025-08-03 08:50 pm

It's all still here - Late July 02025

Let's begin with The COVID-Safe Scouts' research repository, for all your deep dive desires or need to have research to hand when someone around you is trying to tell you that things are either over or not dangerous when it comes to interacting with the variations of SARS-CoV-2.

Also, A claimed nearly-100% effective drug against HIV infection, lenacapavir, is going to market, with deals for generics and no-profit manufacture in several countries around the world, instead of only as an expensive brand name. Twice-yearly injections appears to be the schedule for pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP), and this could be a breakthrough that can finally put down the HIV/AIDS epidemic. What a day that will be, if we can get that virus to die off.

The 2025 version of the Gender Census is running, so if you are a person for whom the label of "man" or "woman" doesn't always apply at all times and in all cases, you are encouraged to take the survey.

The Archive of Our Own Ship Top 100 for 2025 is out, with secondary units involving top 100 F/F ships and the All Time Top 100 with this year's data added to it. Of note is an F/F ship breaking the top 5 for this year. (Also of note is a few comments complaining about how "Latino" is an ethnicity, not a race, and that it's overbroad, which are accurate things. It's also difficult to get any kind of ethnic or ethnic-allegorical data out of creators unless they want to volunteer it.)

Ozzy Osbourne, front singer for Black Sabbath and otherwise well-known heavy mtal man (and reality TV star), fully assumes the title of Prince of Darkness at 76 years of age.

No longer dancing the masochism tango or poisoning pigeons in the park, or letting us know about which of the various periodic elements have made it to Harvard University, Tom Lehrer, satirist, musician, and otherwise funny person, died at 97 years of age. And after music, mostly went on to teach mathematics, so faded a touch from the spotlight, just the way he wanted. If you're not familiar with his work, he released all of his songs, the sheet music, and the lyrics, to the public domain, so that we can all do whatever we'd like with them.

Chuck Mangione is now playing trumpet again with Dizzy Gillespie, having achieved 84 years of age.

Malcolm Jamal-Warner, most famously known for starring alongside Bill Cosby in a sitcom of Cosby's, has accidentally drowned at 54 years of age. Since then, he had gone on to be a Grammy-winning musician and an actor in several other shows, more than just the role he carried on the show, which, given what's happened with Bill Cosby, is probably the thing he will be better remembered for.

Terry Bollea, also known by his wrestling moniker "Hollywood Hogan," a heel who was instrumental to the storyline founding World Championship Wrestling's New World Order, has tapped out at 71 years of age. Hollywood Hogan would stay well associated with the professional wrestling circuit after his debut, as well as the McMahons that own most of the promotions at this point, and expressed himself routinely as a supporter of the current administration and their policies. Another character attributed to him, the face "Hulk Hogan," continues to live on in the memories of wrestling fans and those who enjoy movies where wrestlers take up acting careers, unsullied by any of the actions or attitudes taken on by similarly-named "Hollywood Hogan." The Hulkamaniacs are probably pretty happy that there's nothing more than can be done to corrupt their memories based on the actions of Hollywood Hogan.

International decisions, domestic decisions, technology woes and wonders, and more, inside )

Last for tonight, five lego walker designs versus seven obstacles to navigate. It's interesting to see what designs do better against the various things put in their way.

The innate shallowness of decorating a space with books mostly by the look of the books, rather than because you are someone who has read many books and therefore your space is decorated with your own media selections.

And if you take a definition of humiliation as the forced recognition of domination and then apply it forward to both social and political situations and suddenly you have a really accurate blueprint for why certain things persist, even though it's clear that they are inefficient, they don't provide a lot of joy to the people who humiliate others, and they have lasting and terrible consequences for the people who are humiliated. And it also helps us think about how to build a society where humiliation is harder, less possible, and more strongly pushed back against by those who are more likely to be attacked.

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